ARE YOU A DISCIPLE OF JESUS OR IS CHRISTIANITY YOUR RELIGION? PART I
What have you understood about what Dr Paul and I shared about the kingdom and the Church?
If you continue be a Christian in the religious sense you will never be free to be who Jesus wants you to be!
Religion, any religion, including Christianity is the greatest enemy of transformation! For many people being a Christian is to do prayers, attend worship services, not drinking or smoking, doing, doing, doing something for God!
Jesus was not Christian! Jesus did not start Christianity! Christianity is a men made religion!
Unless you are born again you can not SEE and ENTER the Kingdom of God!
Are you a disciple of Jesus or are you a Christian?
Are you born again or were you only baptized?
Are you a church member or a disciple of Jesus?
I see many people around me in confusion! They stay in church all their lives but they are not transformed!
There are as many gossipers, and slanderers, and liars in christian churches as outside of them.
Most of Christians I know are financially bound, in debt, even though they are so sincere they never prosper even being faithful in tithing and offering.
Many of them are never able to overcome poverty! Why? Their religious mindsets and world views keep them apart of God's wisdom for change and transformation.
Many of them bound by the Christianity world view never prosper! They were taught to expect that someone should give them something. Some are praying for answers like if God would be a magician that will do a miracle for them that they may not do anything.
God urges us to fight, to work, to conquer and press on for our lives.
95% of Christians never had made a disciple for Jesus, they are only goers to the Christian temples!
Where in the Bible says that for me to follow Jesus I have to become a Christian.
Many of them treat their women badly, many young people have a bad testimony and some are called Christians, but are haters and murderers.
Christianity is not life according to God's Word! There are a lot of things in Christianity that are against Christ, that are not in accordance of God's Scriptures.
God's Word is Jesus Christ alone!
Do you want to follow HIM?
Do you want to hear directly from HIM or will you always have to wait for a pastor or a intercessor or some kind of witch to talk to you what you have to do?
I want to encourage you to think differently! But to think according to Jesus! How does Jesus think?
Burundi, America and Brazil are called Christian nations! In Brazil, per example, that has a president, congressmen, senators or judges that are considered Christians but they are as crooked and wicked as any Devil worshippers!
I don't care if you are a religious Christian! Nothing has changed in your life, nothing will change in your life, you will not be transformed if you don't become by nature a true follower of Christ!
Being called a Christian is just a name of another religion. All religions are sin! Because religion is a system that intents to substitute Jesus as the only Mediator between men and God!
I sincerely hope you will understand me NOW, because most of you DO NOT!
There are many pastors in your country that are men and women of God! But they are men and women of God not because they are Christians, but because they have renounced everything to follow Jesus as Lord and King alone!
We are opened to answer your questions! Please feel free to ask anything related to what you just read.
JSalum
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JN - Yeah.you're right Dr.
But what i can add is that God doesn't love lazy people.We have to know that the disciples also worked.For instance Paul wove the tents.So,image if someone stay praying believing that someone will come and give him something.๐๐
We have to that there is no need to be called christian while we don't belong to Christ.Therefore in order to belong to Jesus we must be as He was.We shouldn't brag our religion๐๐.We have to brag that we are in Christ Jesus.
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What do I mean by religious?
Anything I preach and talk but O do no live is religion and hypocrisy! Jesus never said we should build temples while people around us are dying of hunger! But for if religious temple or church being Christian or not feed the hungry they do it directly for Jesus.
Don't call me Christian Jeremie because I am not! I follow Jesus! He is my King and Lord! How many Christians do follow Jesus? None of them! ๐ณ๐ณ๐ณ๐๐๐๐
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Christian = Thank you to share more about religion how it cannot change our life, I do agree with it. But I didn't know Christianity as a religion but rather I know it as a relationship between God and people(His children)
Why is it so ?
Because in Acts 11:26
We can see that the disciples were called the first time christians because they resembled Jesus-Christ.
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Please Would you clarify this ?
1.Being not Christian or religious but follower of JC means "to quit our churches and no longer go to any church ?
2. How would we follow Christ while we are not christians ?
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Christian, you are the only one that can be called Christian - it is your name! ๐๐๐๐๐ณ๐ณ๐ณ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
Just kidding! Are you ready to be challenged in your thinking! Remember you have to think for yourself and have to check in your Bible if it is really so!
Let us set some people free! Hallelujah!
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ARE YOU A DISCIPLE OF JESUS OR IS CHRISTIANITY YOUR RELIGION? PART 2
Three questions:
A - I didn't know Christianity as a religion but rather I know it as a relationship between God and people(His children) Why is it so ?
Because in Acts 11:26 we can see that the disciples were called the first time christians, because they resembled Jesus-Christ."
B - Being not Christian or religious but follower of Jesus Christ means "to quit our churches and no longer go to any church?
C - How would we follow Christ while we are not christians?
Let us define the words so we can communicate well!
Today to be a Christian means to be like Christ or to be a follower of Christ. If you are called Christian means for some people you are following Jesus! Are you about that? What about millions who are called Christians but do not follow Jesus? If someone ask what is your religion you will answer: I am Christian! To be a Christian basically means you are part of a religion called Christianity or Christianism.
That is not what the Bible call a Christian. The word Christian in the Bible means to suffer like Jesus has suffered and with this meaning it occurs only once:
“Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.” 1 Peter 4:16 KJV
Look at this verse in another Bible version:
“But if one of you suffers for being a Messianic, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this matter.”
1 Peter 4:16 WMBBE
Then the word Christian occurred the first time in the Bible here:
“and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.”
Acts 11:26 NIV
Who have called them Christians? Was the Holy Spirit? Were other disciples of Jesus?
It says the disciples, the disciples were called Christians. They were called Christians, but they really are? The disciples of Jesus!
If you keep reading the book of Acts the word Christian was only repeated on more time, however the writer instead of start to calling them Christians the keeps calling them disciples. Why? Because they were not Christians, they were disciples.
They were disciples everywhere and all together in Church! Not in the church, but in Church, when they met in any place, they were the Church. There were not members of an Institution, they have never met in temples because all the temples of Antioch were only pagan temples!
Yes, that is obviously ok if we come together in a "church meaning a building", but that is not a church with the Bible meaning! We are the church, two, or three, or more wherever we are gathered in the name of Jesus! Please read again the teaching on the Kingdom and the Church!
Besides I Peter 4:26 and Acts 11:26 the other time of the three times the word "Christian" appears in the whole Bible is Acts 26:28 and in this context:
“Now as he thus made his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, “Paul, you are beside yourself! Much learning is driving you mad!”
Then Agrippa said to Paul, “You almost persuade me to become a Christian.” And Paul said, “I would to God that not only you, but also all who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I am, except for these chains.”” Acts 26:24, 28-29 NKJV
The king was obviously mocking about who he thought Paul was trying to persuade him to become. He used the word christian in a negative way like In Antioch was not God who called the disciples Christians neither here! Christian was much like a nickname in Acts, used my wicked people to mock the disciples of Jesus.
Paul instead said: I would to God that not only you, but also all who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I AM!
He practically said I would you become such as I AM! Not a Christian but who I AM! Who Paul said who he was? He has never called himself a Christian. Many times Paul said he was - not called, not named - but he was a prisoner of Christ.
You can called yourself whatever you want to be called, but I ask: who are you?
I AM a son of God, I AM a disciple of Jesus, and I should be called a Christian according the the Holy Spirit only if - ONLY IF - I suffer like Jesus suffered!
You have to decide if you are going to repeat and follow what you have learned or if you want to CHANGE the way you think to be in accordance with what the Bible says, and more important than all, to conform with what Jesus says.
We all want to be like Jesus is, to think like He thinks, to talk like He talks, and do what He does. So you must consider all the foolishness of religion to be who Christ is. If is not a decision that can make you who Jesus is. It is empowerment to become who He is.
TO BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS EASY AND COMFORTABLE, BUT TO CHANGE, TO REPENT is not nice.
If the churches in Burundi, Brasil, Aruba, Congo, US, India are going to be and to do what they have been and done we will continue to have of the same! If you compare the disciples of Jesus in the first century with today's of who they say are his disciples can you see that something is not matching to what Jesus always wanted? Can you see the churches are basically the same everywhere! Few are the true Jesus disciples though all of them call themselves Christians.
If it is a relationship between God and His children the Bible does not call Christianity, but fellowship. If you are following Jesus the Holy Spirit does not call you Christian, he calls you a disciple!
Please, don't ask me questions until you respond mine:
ARE YOU A DISCIPLE OF JESUS OR IS CHRISTIANITY YOUR RELIGION?
Are you a disciple of Jesus or are you a Christian?
Are you born again or were you only baptized?
Are you a disciple of Jesus or a church member?
Are you in the Body of Christ or are you a church goer?
Do you want to follow HIM? Then if you do you have to renounce Christianity like the apostles of Jesus renounced Judaism!
JSalum
Cristian - And I Thank you to share more
๐ค to your questions:
I'm a disciple of Jesus and if Christianity is considered a religion I'm not part of it.
Then that means I am a disciple of Jesus, I am born again, I'm not just a church goer.
But many don't think Christianity in that way . And I like what you called 'Fellowship' that would define exactly what I about know Christianity. Also I do believe that are not going to heaven because they called Christians unless they're born again.
That's my point of view.
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Let me interject here. Josimar is shaking things that God has revealed to him. Do not take offense! He is not attacking you personally. It is very easy to take offense, which causes us to close our spirit. This causes us to be unable to receive from God. The Pharisees were this way. Be a good Berean and simply look into the Word of God with an open heart that will allow u to receive fresh revelation. You must receive this revelation yourself. If you don't understand, pray but be patient.
Ask the Lord to give u eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to understand what God has prepared for you. 1 Cor. 2:8
I would encourage u if u can to go on line and read Frank Viola's book, "Pagan Christianity". This book looks at the roots to much of what is done in our churches today. U will be amazed.
Here is the link to read or download the book of Frank Viola and George Barna - Pagan Christianity
http://www.theology.kiev.ua/images/afiles/0000412.pdf
Why do I share this? We often think what we do in church is sacred, but most of it is all man made.
This may at least open your spirit to hear what the spirit is saying now!
We r both speaking from experience, but I realize that for many, many years I believe what I was taught from men who believed what they were taught. I just regurgitated what was given to without thinking for myself. This is the greatest problem with religion. Denominations are built on a man or a few people's experience and then formed into a set of doctrines to be taught to others. People then become followers of that person and study their doctrine that is based on scripture. This causes us to make God into a finite Being rather than an infinite being that requires an on going relationship to continue to grow in knowledge of Him. Our walk with God is a journey, not a destination!
We treat salvation and doctrine as if we have arrived. No way! God is infinite and we must continue to pursue Him to know Him more! This is what our life with Him is all about and using our knowledge of God to fulfill our purpose in His Kingdom on earth!
Hope this helps you to better understand what the Lord is trying to reveal to us for such a time as this.
All of this is accomplished as we become Jesus! Becoming Jesus is not religious or necessarily anything to do with the church. It has to do with becoming who u were created to be and walking as One with Him. In Him we live (have life), move (as guided by what we hear and see the Father do and speak), and have our being (our existence, our purpose)!
How exciting is that? Much better than the routine of religion.
Be blessed! Believe for the impossible!
Dr. Taylor
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